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Update Nav Bar Links[edit source]

I've been making changes and editing the wiki to help improve it -- I noticed in the Side Nav Bar that the 'character' section links to Aggressive Enemies. I've since updated that page to include a Header 2 Enemies section with two Header 3 subsections (Aggressive Enemies and Non-Agressive Enemies). I suggest changing the Enemies link to simply link to the Enemies section.

Weapons and armors with elements[edit source]

I don't see any point in mass-creating multiple pages with the same weapon or armor JUST to add that it has an element. Lets use the regular non-elemental name and then just write the info there. We can set up redirects for all elements like Gem Boots Fire -> Gem Boots. V6o (talk) 14:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

It all depends on how you guys want to go about doing that. Technically, the elemental requirements for crafting are different for each specific item, so the categorization-centric me wants to do separate pages. But for simplicity, you're absolutely right. Basically, whichever the community thinks would work better should be the route we take. It's up to you guys. SandovalCurse (talk) 17:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm happy either way also. I just did them up separate for ease of the newer players. Also, it will assist players who search the individual item, rather then go to the weapons page. --Wrathguard (talk) 17:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
We can still set up redirect pages so if they happen to search for "Wooden Sword + Fire" and click it they will go to "Wooden Sword" that has information about the elemental versions. I'd rather update 1 page than 6 (Normal, Fire, Ice, Electric, Poison, Player soul) V6o (talk) 19:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Quick correction, incase we run into confusion, but "Wooden Sword + Fire" should go to "Wooden Sword +" Fright01 (talk) 21:21, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
It seems some have started to use "w/ attribue". I just feel I have to express how wrong I think this is. We shouldn't need to shorten anything and a slash should not be a part of page url if it can be avoided. I don't know about the rest of you but I've always referred to them as elemental and not "with attribute". I really think it would be easier to set up 1 page only. We could have a suffix on items to show that there is elemental versions for it. We could use text or some symbol as suffix, it doesn't really matter to me. --V6o (talk) 15:58, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Also, we can change the Infobox layout to add elemental as an extra component/material for elemental version rather than having it were the rest of the regular required materials are. --V6o (talk) 16:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I know I'm late to the party but I agree with V6o (talkcontribslogsblock log) on this one. Redirects can be put in place but elemental variations should be put in a single page. My experiences so far show that the elemental variation costs really only make a difference in whatever elemental essence is needed and nothing else. This could, of course, change in the future but I think this works out fine especially with how inaccurate a lot of the costs have become (it's been painful to crawl through everything and condense information into a single location with appropriate redirects and links). Ldicker (talk) 00:59, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

MultiTool[edit source]

So the MultiTool, is it a weapon or a tool. I'm working on an navigation list (Template:ListWeapons) that will appear below all weapons and I'm not really sure where to place the MultiTool. Personally I feel it's a tool but some of you might consider it a "ranged weapon". Can we have some sort of vote? (I will set up lists like this for all pages eventually so it is easier to navigate) --V6o (talk) 16:53, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

As no one actually said anything I'm going to add it as a tool. --V6o (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Naming convention[edit source]

I don't think there's any reason to discuss this but I am removing all S's from article names (page names) so it is singular. I feel this is how it should be so there's never any guessing. E.g. Weapons -> Weapon --V6o (talk) 22:37, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

For clarification, ingame items are always spelled and capitalized as in the game/game files (MultiTool), categories are plural (Category:Weapons) and regular pages are singular (Weapon) --V6o (talk) 11:17, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
This has been a slow and painful crawl for me -- I completely agree with this guideline and have made a number of edits in an effort to pull all pages to conform to this. Ldicker (talk) 01:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

"Building" sidebar navigation[edit source]

I have been editing the Building section of the Wiki, and I think the Building section of the navigation bar at the side should have only 2 categories, one for the rooms and another for everything else (Placed Items, Mining, Powered Base Items, etc.). The reason I think rooms should be separate is because there's too much of it to be put together alongside the other building categories. -Mkgenesis5

A lot of content was moved from our old wiki host to this site and no one decided which pages to keep or drop, as such it is quite messy in some places. I also feel that some pages could be combined as it would be easier to find the information and to keep up to date. If you are able to combine or finish the pages to the point where we can change the links then I will gladly do so. -V6o (talk) 17:36, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Similar buildings on one page instead of separate[edit source]

Do you think we should even have individual pages for each building/ room variation? (e.g. Closed room, Closed room OMCR, Room w/doorframe, etc.) The only reason to create individual pages is if we can add a table with 'room cost reduction' skill showing how much resource required to build is reduced per level of the skill. But it would require massive amounts of data, data that can only be fully filled if a player has acquired all rooms and started listing the build cost of each room per level of the 'Room cost reduction', 'placed item cost reduction', etc. -Mkgenesis5

It would probably be easier to find the information needed if all the similar ones were combined. I don't know how many variations there are now as I'm out of the loop. If we just keep to a good layout then it would be no problem to split them if we ever decided to that. We would of course make pages for all variations and then just redirect to the combined one. -V6o (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

New infobox style[edit source]

I feel our infobox style could use an update. This is what it looks like now File:ss (2015-11-10 at 08.30.57).png. I tried making a new one matching the ingame style and it turned out like this File:ss (2015-11-10 at 08.36.21).png. Does anyone have any ideas how to improve the old one? --V6o (talk) 19:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I've set up Template:Blueprint, will be replacing the old infobox with that. --V6o (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I've been updating the armor pages, and have noticed a couple of things are missing from the new box. Item rarity and tolerances(Radiation,Heat,Cold etc.) would be quite handy. I'm not quite sure how we want to handle rarity (coloured names vs explicit text). Will update here if I find anything else. --HitmanX (talk) 21:23, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Feel free to add tolerances. I looked over some rarity on some items and right now it doesn't seem to have much connection with loot drop chance.. --V6o (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

NPC, friendly & non-friendly[edit source]

Right now NPCs are on a page called Characters which seems like a weird page name for NPCs. I would like to suggest we change the page name to "NPC", and possibly "Monster". There's not many friendly NPCs so I'm not sure if they would need a page of their own. --V6o (talk) 17:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree that they should be named NPC since by definition everything in that list will be a "Non Player Character", whether or not they are named Monster or NPC. All Friendly NPCs except the Vendroid play such a small role in-game that they would not require a seperate page in my opinion. We already have so many different pages for the smallest of things that I believe, given the chance to consolidate things onto one page, that we should do so when possible. --VoidSlicer (talk) 21:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Building a better navigation[edit source]

I feel we need to make a better navigation for the wiki. Any ideas or is it just up to me... I did compile this building/crafting list http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RA1F2jib --V6o (talk) 19:33, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Making it easier to keep pages up to date[edit source]

Keeping a lot of same information on multiple pages where it differs slightly in layout adds extra work to update it. If there are any pages we should drop to make it easier to update we could talk about it here. We have for example Weapon, Category:Weapons (if tagged accordingly), Melee_weapon, Rotted_Wood_Club. --V6o (talk) 21:18, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Storing item stats & templates[edit source]

Does anyone know a way to somehow store and retrieve item stats on a wiki, it would be nice if we didn't have to update multiple pages with stats if something changes. I know we could make a template that resembles Blueprint (same parameters) so we only need to copy-paste but I'd prefer something better. --V6o (talk) 07:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Again I know I'm late to the party by my personal opinion on this is that stats, costs, etc. should be relegated to the individual items page and left out of anything else that links to it. Otherwise it's just an exercise in futility. A user looking for this information should be directed to that items page. This is the philosophy that I've been using over the last few days as I've edited a variety of articles across the wiki. Ldicker (talk) 01:05, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Missing or outdated planet pages[edit source]

There are missing pages for Home Planet (well, it is outdated), Moon, Low Planet, Mid Planet, High Planet. I'm assuming we can keep the singular name scheme, I.e. Low Planet versus Low Planets.

What should be listed on these pages? All the items found on these planets and some screen shots? Planet rotations? Can someone make a template for these 5 locations? Thanks. --???

The things you mentioned on the page sounds like what people would expect to find. We don't have a style-guide in place or templates for those pages so feel free to make the page as you'd want to see it and we'll just improve on it if we need to. --V6o (talk)